Treo650 problems?

July 7th, 2006

I’ve now heard two reports that installing List 1.1.1 on a Treo causes crashes requiring a device reset when you try to launch List.  This crash is immediately on launch of List – so if you’ve got the problem, you’ll know right away.

One user was able to just delete List – and re-install List 1.1.1 and the problems appear to have gone away.  The other user was able to install List 0.99 (thus replacing the 1.1.1 version) and recover all of their data.  So there are options if you run into this problem.

I don’t have a Treo650, so I need your help to track this down.  I’m looking for someone who’s willing to experiment and try to recreate this problem on their Treo and report the steps to me.  Alternatively, if anyone can reproduce a similar problem on another device – I’d like to hear about that too.

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  • 1. rg  |  July 13th, 2006 at 11:49 am

    List 1.1.1 also reboots my PalmTX on occasions, just as I select the List icon in Launcher.
    It happens maybe once every 10 times, and I have been blaming the TX.
    TX security, (if you switch it on!) also causes a reboot on unlocking, and you have to enter your password twice, before and after the reboot

  • 2. Andreas Kraft  |  July 14th, 2006 at 9:25 am

    I am also using List 1.1.1 on a TX, but encountered no problems so far.

  • 3. superbiji  |  July 17th, 2006 at 9:10 am

    probably you forget to close DB/resource?

    because the crash seems random on my treo 650

  • 4. Ben  |  July 22nd, 2006 at 3:11 pm

    I just installed it on my Treo 650 and the first time I clicked on List it brought me to the initial page. Pressed done and it crashed. I went back to the main menu and clicked on the icon and it crashed again.

  • 5. Ben  |  July 22nd, 2006 at 3:20 pm

    However, installed version 0.99 after and it appears to be working ok.

  • 6. Faye  |  July 23rd, 2006 at 12:15 pm

    List reboots my TX on occasion. The problem started after I added 10 or so additional database files to the 35 or 36 I had already installed on the TX. I deleted List and all the DB files from the TX, reinstalled List and the DB that had existed before I added the additional files. I had no problems for a couple of weeks, so added one of the 10 I wanted to install, and I had the reboot problem again. I deleted just that recently added file, and all is good again. Perhaps that one is corrupt? I am planning to experiment by installing a different additional file.

    Is there a limit to the number of database files that List can handle? My files are all lists of food/restaurant nutrition information, used either with the WWCalc program (tracking Weight Watchers points), or accessed directly by launching List.

  • 7. jose diaz  |  July 27th, 2006 at 4:46 pm

    I have list inmy treo 600 ,it run very good. Now ihave 650…
    please tellme how I can pass all list archives to my new
    treo.??….is possible?…. first I think I mus to install list …
    which version? the new..1.1.1 o the old like the version
    in treo 600..1.0

    thank you for your help.

  • 8. roo  |  July 27th, 2006 at 10:38 pm

    One of the key differences between List 0.99 and List 1.1.1 is that I used the more current (and in theory better) Palm SDK/Tooling to create the program. However, based on the feedback here I suspect that it may be the root cause of some of the problems. I will look into it.

    List is limited by the amount of main memory that your Palm device supports, you can have as many Lists as will fit.

    The most efficient manner to transfer your List data from one device to another is via the PC you synchronize to. However, a direct device to device transfer is possible if you beam the databases one at a time over. The data format between versions of List is compatible, so List 0.99 data will work fine with List 1.1.1 etc..

  • 9. Richard Kapteyn  |  August 23rd, 2006 at 4:09 pm

    I can’t seem to sync my calandar or contacts tasks or memos.

  • 10. roo  |  August 30th, 2006 at 7:40 pm

    > I can’t seem to sync my calandar or contacts tasks or memos.

    Richard, List doesn’t claim to have this functionality.

  • 11. sunny  |  October 9th, 2006 at 5:38 pm

    I love this program and have been using the 1.1.1 version for quite some time. It was working great, but just recently began crashing and rebooting every time I select it. I have deleted all the list databases, tried 1.1.2, and tried 0.99, but I still get rebooting everytime I select list.

    I have a palm TX. All other applications are working fine. I hope I can get it working again.

  • 12. roo  |  October 12th, 2006 at 1:55 pm

    Sunny, the behaviour you describe is likely the result of a corrupted database.

    Your best bet is to track down a program that will assist you in backing up the data files from your Palm to your PC – then deleting List (which will delete all of the associated data files!) from your Palm.

    By starting fresh, and re-installing the List databases one by one – you will be able to figure out which one is corrupted.

  • 13. Jon  |  January 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    I have become totally dependent on list to store numerous databases supporting me at work and home. (Thanks Roo!) My Tungsten T5 died recently and my quasi-organized world is now in complete disarray. My work will pay for a replacement (though I would rather not get another T5). The problem is I cannot get a phone/PDA. I would love to know the best high tech and reliable non-phone PDA available that will support list. Any suggestions? Thanks

  • 14. roo  |  February 5th, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    Well, List is compatible with any of the PalmOS devices. My personal PalmV is sitting unused on the desk here – I continue to maintain List, but I don’t actually use it anymore. So you’ll have to look to others to make a suggestion.

  • 15. Marco  |  July 21st, 2008 at 8:35 am

    With my Treo 650 List crashes always (before…often, and now…always).
    Can you help me?
    Thank you

  • 16. roo  |  July 22nd, 2008 at 7:22 am

    I still believe there is some lingering bug out there causing these problems, and while I’ve invested quite some time into trying to locate it it continues to elude me.

    Most people have success by backing up their databases, deleting List and all of the databases – then doing a re-install.

  • 17. Marco  |  July 22nd, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    Thank for replay,
    consider that I have made your suggestion and this is not definitive: after a variable period of time List crashes again (after a period of good functioning).
    In this moment I have deleted 4 of my 5 databases (after a period of “always crash”) and I have left the most important: now I can use List without problem, but I know that this is for a limited period of time.
    If you need my Treo 650 for some test, I am available (only for simple things, because I am not a programmer…).
    Consider than I have the latest version of List.
    Thank you again

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